Nathan Sheets ([info]natewillsheets) wrote,
@ 2008-07-13 20:29:00
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Entry tags:abortion, birth control, obama

Hormonal Birth Control and When Life Begins
When not cleaning my gun or sewing up the rips in my KKK uniform, I sit and think about my current beliefs about life, death, religion, God, etc. Of course, as many of you know, one of the most important issues with me is the abortion issue, which really is a cumulative mixing of a bunch of terrible shit going on in the world.

I am actually quite surprised at how few of my political/social views have changed since I've given up trying to practice Christianity. The two biggest that I can think of are gay marriage (and trust me, I'm not pro-gay marriage in the traditional liberal way: by having courts give it to us) and the use of contraception.

When I say "contraception", however, it's only non-hormonal contraception that I approve of due to the precise reasons I was against hormonal birth control pre-secular days. I have to ask myself, "When does life begin?"

It's hard to keep track of what the pro-choicers believe these days in regards to personhood. One minute they seem to insist that a conceived child is not a person and therefore can be removed without any moral question whatsoever, then the other they're saying that yes, it's a life, but it doesn't matter, because that life isn't worth as much as, say, a homeless person. I find this perennially intriguing--but that's another issue.

If we're looking at things in terms of personhood, why is it that we, as a society, don't believe that pre-implantation lives are actually lives? What is the significant difference between traveling up the fallopian tube and actually being attached to the uterine wall? There isn't really that much of a difference, when looking at the development of that human life. But in order to make ourselves feel better about pumping fourteen year-olds up with hormones, we say, "Actually, life begins at implantation! Anything goes up to that point!" Unless of course you're Obama, in which case it's OK to slaughter an infant in the third trimester with a pretty damned good "health" reason!

I guess all of this to say that I still believe that life begins at conception. This hasn't changed, and I doubt that it will.




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[info]thepresident
2008-07-14 06:47 am UTC (link)
Except that hormonal birth control, when taken properly, prevents ovulation... so... no egg.

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[info]natewillsheets
2008-07-14 06:49 am UTC (link)
Unless breakthrough ovulation occurs, or, conversely, unless it's not taken properly.

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[info]thepresident
2008-07-14 07:01 am UTC (link)
And if a woman really doesn't want to get pregnant, she'll most likely use pills AND condoms. And the chances of getting pregnant (or the chance of ovulating and having sperm reach the egg in that case) are kind of ridiculous.

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[info]thepresident
2008-07-14 07:25 am UTC (link)
In addition, if you're ok with people being gay but not with heterosexual people using hormonal birth control to prevent pregnancy, and if I don't want to deal with the failure rate of condoms, by your logic I should either become a nun or a lesbian. I wonder if I could find a nice Irish girl... :-)

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[info]thepresident
2008-07-14 07:03 am UTC (link)
Even if it is taken properly, 3 to 5 percent of women taking it still pregnant over the course of the year. Considering the very small likelihood of breakthrough ovulation, as well as the small window of opportunity necessary for fertilization, it seems much more likely that women are getting pregnant instead of expelling a fertilized egg uf breakthrough ovulation occurs and backup methods are not being utilized.

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[info]thepresident
2008-07-14 06:59 am UTC (link)
also, here's a fascinating, scientific statement from several doctors who identify as Christian:

http://www.christiandiscussionforums.org/v/showthread.php?t=97008

They make a very good point in that the blastocyst is incredibly resourceful and can often implant in a women's tubes, which have a completely different tissue structure than the uterine lining. So fertilized eggs will most likely implant in women's uteri even if they do ovulate while taking the pill, because "hostile endometrium" doesn't really mean anything. Statements like this make a lot more sense to me than pro-life websites that are like "OMG TEH ESTROGENS KILL TEH BAYBEES!" But then again I am a science major.

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[info]thepresident
2008-07-14 07:15 am UTC (link)
In addition, according to the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, 50% of fertilized eggs are rejected by the body before implantation. The point of implantation is where the woman's body accepts the fertilized egg and begins to nourish it. One could say that the woman is not responsible for the fertilized egg before this point.

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[info]ooojanisooo
2008-07-14 10:22 am UTC (link)
I'm not crazy about hormonal birth control but it works. (except women seeking abortions because they were all on 3 different kinds of birth control plus using a condom and STILL got pregnant) So what do you suggest for married (monogamous) folks who don't want to have 9 or ten kids?

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[info]thepresident
2008-07-14 12:17 pm UTC (link)
Well, the rhythm method is out:

http://jme.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/32/6/355

Here's the abstract to an article in the journal "Medical Ethics" that describes how it can be assumed that the rhythm method is responsible for many more embryonic deaths than hormonal contraception.

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[info]thepresident
2008-07-14 12:00 pm UTC (link)
The word conception (forgive me for so many comments, but I have a biology test tomorrow, and part of it includes embryo development) is not a term which means "fertilization." It means the entire process of forming a viable embryo, from ovulation to implantation.

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